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Is it really true what they say about meth?
sdm
sanjose |
Is it really true what they say about meth?
Is it really true what
they say about meth?
I have heard the following statements about meth after prolonged use.
1. Meth takes everything that is sacred such as love and twists it into the exact opposite.
2. It opens the door to pornography and every type of
sexual perversion that a person can imagine.
3. Gives you sudden bouts of irrational fear of danger
from the police or someone.
4. While on meth the hallucinations are real and revolve
around fear and destruction.
5. Meth takes whatever character traits that each person
has and develops it into the worst possible
extent. A few examples are a person prone to be violent will
become extremely violent and a
person prone to wicked imaginations will have those imaginations
increased dramatically.
6. Under the influence you have no conscience of your own.
7. With advance used of meth the ability to distinguish
the truth becomes impossible.
8. Rebellion becomes second nature when on meth.
Please explain why you think
these statements are true or not |
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Crystal
Clear |
Re: Is it really true what they say about
meth?
It is true ....
How do I know? Because I was an unknowing, SOBER witness to all
the above, plus more.
It is a nightmare I will never forget!
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Sfj |
Re: Is it really true what they say about meth?
1 Meth takes
everything that is sacred such as love and twists it into the
exact opposite.
No, it can twist some things, but not everything.
2 It opens the door to pornography and every type of sexual
perversion that a person can imagine.
It lowers inhibitions in some people, not all.
3 Gives you sudden bouts of irrational fear of danger from the
police or someone.
Lack of sleep can create paranoia
4. While on meth the hallucinations are real and revolve around
fear and destruction.
That can happen, but not as often as you might have heard.
5. Meth takes whatever character traits that each person has and
develops it into the worst possible
extent.
A few examples are a person prone to be violent will
become extremely violent and a
person prone to wicked imaginations will have those imaginations
increased dramatically.
No. That can happen also, but it is more rare than the hysteria
that promotes it.
6 Under the influence you have no conscience of your own.
Absolutely false. Meth may temporarily lessen one's ability to
listen to his conscience.
7 With advance used of meth the ability to distinguish the truth
becomes impossible.
Totally false.
8 Rebellion becomes second nature when on meth.
In some cases, but rebellion is part of growing up for many
youngsters.
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nine
years
clean |
Re: Is it really true what they say about meth?
- Meth takes
everything that is sacred such as love and twists it into the
exact opposite.
We relinquish
everything that is sacred, as if we are possessed. But it
doesn't twist love into the exact opposite. It null and voids
love. It null and voids human emotion or compassion or
sensibility.
- It opens the door to pornography and every type of sexual
perversion that a person can imagine.
This was not my
experience. I was faithful and loyal to my husband throughout my
entire marriage of 15 years, and my entire addiction of 13
years. We got frisky, but nothing perverse, and no porn tapes or
anything like that.
- Gives you sudden bouts of irrational fear of danger from the
police or someone.
It eventually
gave me a sudden fear of the grim reaper more than anything
else. Of hell. Of being found out and exposed and humiliated.
Which in the end, I brought upon myself by confessing my crime
and paying the hefty fine of prison.
- While on meth the hallucinations are real and revolve around
fear and destruction.
I only saw
shadow people, and I don't know if they were there or not, but I
saw them nonetheless. Meth psychosis IS REAL.
- Meth takes whatever character traits that each person has and
develops it into the worst possible
extent.
A few examples are a person prone to be violent will
become extremely violent and a
person prone to wicked imaginations will have those imaginations
increased dramatically.
I don't think
this happened to me either. For most of my addiction years, 13,
I held down a full time job as a legal professional with a
husband and a home and community involvement and family
functions and the legion hall once a week.
- Under the influence you have no conscience of your own.
What I realized
later was that my conscience was still there, thank God, but
silenced by my addiction.
- With advance used of meth the ability to distinguish the truth
becomes impossible.
To distinguish
the truth about what we hear or see or about what we do or say?
- Rebellion becomes second nature when on meth.
Not for me, but
I was 27 when I began using meth. And stopped at 40. 13 years,
but older and a mom and wife and full time employee.
Please explain why you think these statements are true or not I can only describe what was true or
not true for me. Hope this helps you.
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chris
gonz |
Re: Is it really true what they say about meth?
I think the
effects of drugs is different with each individual.
Some people have more will power than others and we all live on
different levels of what's right or wrong.
I think the length of time people use and those effects are
different too.
I know someone who's been strung out since 1980 and he's just
mellow and sticks to himself, he looks a lot like he did when we
were young and is totally cool but will defend himself.
I know someone else who's been strung out just as long, and
seems a mess. She's dishonest and always thinking about that
next high.
They are two VERY different people with the same problem and
behave totally differently.
So, you can't pose those kinds of questions to everyone who's
used or uses and expect one answer.
I used for years, I saw things, never stold from anyone, lied a
lot, never let my grandmother see me high, took her shopping
every month, raised good kids, did time.....
I think I stayed pretty balanced, for an addict. I've seen
others do MUCH better.
Why do you ask?
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sdm
sanjose |
Re: Is it really true what they say about meth?
Stan: With advance used of meth the ability to
distinguish the truth becomes impossible.
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Lori: To distinguish the truth
about what we hear or see or about what we do or say?
Stan to Lori, I meant that to be unable to distinguish the truth
about what you hear or see.
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Chris: Why do you ask?
Stan to Chris: First, when I read or hear those kinds of
statements it concerns me because they are pretty scary and my
son is an addict.
Second, I always try to get many sources of information about
what concerns me.
There are other reasons but they may not be that important.
Chris when you said:
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“I know someone who's been strung out
since 1980 and he's just mellow and sticks to himself, he
looks a lot like he did when we were young and is totally
cool but will defend himself. “
I have not heard any stories like that and I find that very
interesting. Why do you think he
has escaped the down side to meth?
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eyes
open83 |
Re: Is it really true what they say about meth?
i dont have
time to answer them all but some are true and some are
bullsh!t....
having no concience of your own is bullsh!t and anyone that uses
any out side thing so to not take responsibilty is in fuking
denial...it pisses me off when people say that sh!t...
i did alot of fuked up thing when i was using,,alot of hurtful
and melicious stuff...but i did that not the meth...fuking
denial and a lack of responsibility sh!ts me
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nine
years
clean |
Re: Is it really true what they say about meth?
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Stan to Lori, I meant that to be
unable to distinguish the truth about what you hear or see.
It wasn't that I didn't trust what I heard or saw, it was that I
didn't trust myself to have heard it correctly or seen it
accurately. I was painfully aware of how inept my perceptions
were, but unable to correct them, or me, that is, until I got
clean.
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forget
suzette |
Re: Is it really true what they say about meth?
1 Meth takes
everything that is sacred such as love and twists it into the
exact opposite.
It twists it, but whether it goes opposite or not..
....no one knows.
2 It opens the door to pornography and every type of sexual
perversion that a person can imagine.
I was already perverted.
...it gave me stamina.
3 Gives you sudden bouts of irrational fear of danger from the
police or someone.
not me.
4. While on meth the hallucinations are real and revolve around
fear and destruction.
nope...not for me.
5. Meth takes whatever character traits that each person has and
develops it into the worst possible
extent. A few examples are a person prone to be violent will
become extremely violent and a
person prone to wicked imaginations will have those imaginations
increased dramatically.
....it develops it.
but worst possible? I don't think theres a limit.
you could always be worse.
6 Under the influence you have no conscience of your own.
yes you do.
...it drops inhibitions.
but I never did anything I'm ashamed of.
....because I had a conscience.
7 With advance used of meth the ability to distinguish the truth
becomes impossible.
it's the truth as you know it.
.....everybody has one.
everyones reality is different.
8 Rebellion becomes second nature when on meth.
it is'nt rebellion.
............it's indifference.
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Loraura |
Re: Is it really true what they say about meth?
Prolonged
meth use causes a marked chemical imbalance in the brain. This
imbalance takes months to correct itself naturally in the
absence of more meth.
The chemical imblanace caused by meth is not notably different
physiologically from other chemical imbalances caused by other
diseases or natural causes.
You can't cause a noteable chemical imbalance in your brain and
expect to act, think, or react the way you would when your brain
is chemically balanced.
If you break it down to it's smallest components, it's a math
equasion. All the neurotransmitter chemicals in your brain work
together to form a (hopefully) balanced equasion. When balanced,
you experience mental health. When out of balance, you
experience mental illness.
Just becuase it's self induced, does not alter the fact that the
equasion is still out of balance.
Meth and how it
effects your brain's chemicals
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Naiev
Newlywed |
Re: Is it really true what they say about meth?
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1 Meth takes everything that is
sacred such as love and twists it into the exact opposite.
I would say it twists it, but the words "exact opposite" I
wouldn't agree with. It turns normal love into a twisted love. I
know that my meth addicted husband loved me the best way he
could while using. Yes it was twisted, but not the exact
opposite.
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2 It opens the door to pornography
and every type of sexual perversion that a person can
imagine.
For my husband, yes, it opened the door to lots of pornography,
but not EVERY sexual perversion. Hubby is very homophobic and
did not go this route. He did call escort services all the time
though and did have a dope whore or two.
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3 Gives you sudden bouts of
irrational fear of danger from the police or someone.
Paranoia yes
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5. Meth takes whatever character
traits that each person has and develops it into the worst
possible extent. A few examples are a person prone to be
violent will become extremely violent and a
person prone to wicked imaginations will have those
imaginations increased dramatically.
Yes, like SFJ says...meth gets too much credit sometimes. It
doesn't make someone behave badly, it just enhances it. If a
person's criminal side has maybe been 'dormant', meth will bring
it out, but not necessarily turn them into a criminal. They
already were one.
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6 Under the influence you have no
conscience of your own.
I do not believe this. I used to because hubby always said "it
was the dope, it was the dope". Now that he is learning to be
honest, I know he had a conscience of his own. He knew what he
was doing and he chose to do it.
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7 With advance used of meth the
ability to distinguish the truth becomes impossible.
IMO, meth addicts start to believe that everything that comes
out of their mouth is the truth.
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8 Rebellion becomes second nature
when on meth.
Again, IMO, I don't think it's rebellion, I think it's fear on
their part. Fear of losing to the truth. They want to protect
their addiction at all costs, so anyone trying to help them is
just wrong to them.
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imlost
inky |
Re: Is it really true what they say about meth?
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1 Meth takes everything that is
sacred such as love and twists it into the exact opposite
No.
I did not see that in myself, my husband, or my sister.
My husband and I when using together, were the same -it did not
change.Love was never the issue.
I loved him then- I love him now. Our expression of love changed
- for the better without use- but the love has always been.
For my sister, she sent her son away because she loves him-
period.
She was unable to save herself- but she saved him.
No courts took her son- she did the right thing on her own.
She knew in addiction she was not the mother he needed- so while
trapped in addiction, she sent him to me.
Then when I was in my own addiction, she sent him to his
grandmother.
BECAUSE OF LOVE. True love- real love- unselfish love.
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2 It opens the door to pornography
and every type of sexual perversion that a person can
imagine.
It can. I have not had that experience- neither did my sister.
What perversions there may have been were already there prior to
meth and after meth.
For my husband, I saw nothing I hadn't seen before.
So no.
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3 Gives you sudden bouts of
irrational fear of danger from the police or someone.
It can.
Yes, it did - for me.One time a couple guys came over- one I
knew from my sister and her husband at the time, the other was a
roommate of theirs. They came over looking to see if we had any
dope. During the course of the conversation, it got very heated-
yes, Stan, I was afraid of them beating me up ,not rape or
anything- and I was angry- and I threw them out of my home and
had my husband bring me a gun home so if the situation ever
occured again, I would drop them both where they stood.
Looking back, the whole situation was absurb- bullshyt.
Ignorance at it's finest.
So yes, while at the moment it did not feel irrational , it was
irrational-
Yes with my sister- very much so.
I don't know though that it was irrational- when she was seeing
FBI/DEA agents on the roof tops, that was irrational. They
weren't there. But when she was pulled over , and had dope in
the car, that was not.
Irrational with other people- well, Yes, Sleep deprivation
caused her to feel a lot of fears.She thought her boyfriend was
trying to electrocute her. She thought he was trying to hang
her. She thought he was trying to kill her with a bad batch of
dope-
Yes.That did happen- a lot.
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4. While on meth the hallucinations
are real and revolve around fear and destruction.
I never saw anything that wasn't there.
Neither has my husband.
and Yes with my sister- part of which is listed above.
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5. Meth takes whatever character
traits that each person has and develops it into the worst
possible
I my opinion yes it can.
It did not for me or my sister.
Am I violent ? No- Can I be? Yes, if threatened I sure can.
Would my using meth make me more violent?
No Stan, I don't think it would. I don't see how when I did
allow my anger to control me that I could have gotten worse.
I mean focusing in on someone's neck and blacking out because I
would be so angry - I think that is as bad as I could get.
Having to have all of my sons hold me back- no Stan, meth can't
take credit for that.
I don't do well when people threaten my children or their
own.Period.I don't do well when any of my family is threatened.
Meth did not cause that one- I think that one comes from my
Momma. She didn't like it anymore than I did.
My sister is the same way.Before meth, during meth, after meth-
it has always been.
It is a trait that was always scary- always.
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6 Under the influence you have no
conscience of your own.
No. In extreme psychosis, maybe- but No, not with my sister,
myself, or my husband- or anyone else we knew.
We may not have listened to it- but it was still there.
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7 With advance used of meth the
ability to distinguish the truth becomes impossible.
Reality is difficult to distinguish but truth is not.
How I saw things when I was using and how they really were did
not match- but I have always known a lie.
Always.
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8 Rebellion becomes second nature
when on meth.
I can't answer that Stan- my sister, my husband, myself - we
have always been rebellious. Always.
All of us have always been one to do something just because we
were told not to.
Always.
After all of us found our voice due to childhood abuse, that has
been a given.
That is why we all butt heads.
Meth did not give us that one- we already had it. |
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